Yo Marvelous Heckler- those kids in Sum 41 are taking plenty care of themselves by doing copious amounts of blow with their management and hangers on. Believe that!. Their drummer sometimes hangs out in the same bars the Toronto Crew roll through and has bought rounds of shots for anyone that was close by- which included yours truly. It has been tempting once or twice to possibly start shit with the dude just for hilarity's sake, but if that were the case with every shit annoying band from this area I'd have to change my name to Charles fuckin Bronson and there would be infinite sequels for that shit! I'm actually friends with a couple of kids that played in the original line-up (one kid actually also played in Avril Lavigne's back-up band!) and they're quite solid and know about and respect Insurgence records and its mob. The kids that used to play in sum 41 but didn't want to water down their music and sell out help out and/or play in bands run by this collectively run label www.undergroundoperations.com . Check the website out- for young cats their hearts are in the right place and they've done lots of benefits for some genuine lefty causes/groups like www.ocap.ca .